【與神同行】天倫地獄 . 你覺得被「被害…

【與神同行】天倫地獄
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你覺得被「被害者原諒」應該可以抹煞一切的罪行??
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看電影有新思路…
「與神同行2」已全球上映,打算前往觀看二部的先來複習一下第一部吧,一起來聽聽「天上地上,無不探索」青年人的探討,歡迎大家也說說你的看法。。。
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接下來我們要討論的是影片中,最扣人心弦,也是人心最脆弱的,那份觸動人們心中最柔軟的感動__天倫地獄。因為不想繼續承受母親生病所帶來的種種生活壓力,金自鴻決定先悶死母親,再殺死弟弟,這樣天理不容的弒親行為,究竟該如何才能被原諒?
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當業鏡走到金自鴻正拿著枕頭,企圖要殺死自己的母親,弟弟出面阻止不成,金自鴻一怒之下轉而毆打弟弟,之後便離家出走,一去不返整整十五年。。。
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陰間使者辯護說:「當時他雖然逃離開家,但是同時也立下志向,決定從此要為家人好好活著,並且努力賺錢,提供好的生活給母親和弟弟。」
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但是透過業鏡,畫面出現金自鴻的母親其實是睜開眼的,她知道自己的孩子想要殺死她,也明白自己因病久臥病榻,孩子身上背負的責任與壓力已經讓他瀕臨崩潰了。想想,如果藉由兒子的手來結束這一切,也算是圓滿了她的一樁心願吧,所以假裝睡著,沒有掙扎。
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金自鴻看完業鏡後,翻起塵封已久的記憶,跪地痛哭承認他有罪,並祈求能見母親最後一面,但地獄大王表示已經給金自鴻十五年的時間了,故回絕了請求。
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判官:「業鏡中弑親罪已罪證確鑿,你還有甚麼話說?」
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地獄大王要判金自鴻穿越永無止盡的沙漠,遭受沙漠活埋而死,再重生繼續穿越沙漠,活埋,死亡,不斷重複受苦。當審判官要宣判結果時,突然天搖地動。此時,業鏡出現變化了,原來是金自鴻的弟弟在軍中意外身亡,而他也目睹了金自鴻哥哥在天倫地獄的審判過程,於是他透過「託夢」到了母親的夢中,跟母親坦承當時所有的事情。
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金自鴻看見15年未曾見面的母親,衝去想抱住母親,要當面和母親懺悔。此時,母親竟開口說話了(因為在夢中不受肉體障礙的阻隔)。
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母親說:「都是我的錯,孩子並沒有錯。」原來母親早已在當下就原諒了他。
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地獄大王看完感慨的說:「人都會犯錯,只有一部分的人,可以鼓起勇氣請求原諒;只有極少數的人,可以獲得真心原諒。」並說明陰律法則第一條:如能得到人世間的人的原諒,將不再進行審判,並宣布金自鴻的無罪判決……。」
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故事結尾,因為母親的原諒而被判無罪的貴人_金自鴻,順利投胎了。
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原諒,是件不容易的事情,但原諒別人才能放過自己。這一切的悔與錯,是金自鴻犯下了錯誤卻不知如何開口與母親坦誠,一拖就是15年!如果不是因為金自鴻太執著於過去,執著於當下無法承受的壓力,就不會有這些悔與憾。但這就是人世間的考驗,就像影片中,一家人最愛吃的鍋巴飯,熬製的過程也許很辛苦,熬過去了就是人間美味。
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請聊一聊你的想法…
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你是否認同金自鴻的立場抉擇,或你是金自鴻你會怎樣做! !
1.在陰律中「動念」就代表是實際的行為,加上殺人「行動」就是罪上加罪?
2.覺得沒有殺人成功就不該是事實的行為,不該受懲罰?
3.你覺得被「被害者原諒」應該可以抹煞一切的罪行??
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敬請期待續集……??
想知道下一部要討論的電影嗎,請繼續關注我的facebook動態。。。
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圖片來源:
http://dexterstudios.com/zh-hans/portfolio-posts/along-with-god/
#與神同行 #天倫地獄rnrn【Along with the Gods】 Hell of Familial Morality

Do you agree that obtaining the forgiveness from the victim will absolve one of wrongdoing, regardless of the severity of the mistake?

Watching movies can bring us new inspirations…

[Along with the Gods 2] is currently showing in cinemas around the world. Let us recap the first movie and listen to what the ever-inquisitive youths think. At the same time, I also welcome all of you to share your thoughts here…

Here comes the most heart-wrenching and touching part of the movie – The Hell of Familial Morality. In a bid to escape from the sufferings brought about as a result of his mother’s illness, Kim Ja-hong decided to suffocate his ailing mother in her sleep and kill his brother after that. How can he gain forgiveness for such an atrocious deed?

As the karmic mirror changed to display what happened during that time, everyone saw Kim Ja-hong hesitating with a pillow held over their ailing mother. His younger brother tried to stop him but got beaten up instead. After that, Kim Ja-hong ran away from home and had not returned in 15 years…

In his defense, his guides pointed out that he had a complete change of heart once he had left the house and had resolved to live on for his family. From then on, he had worked very hard to earn enough money to support his sick mother and brother.

The scene in the karmic mirror shifted and everyone could now see that Kim Ja-hong’s mother had opened her eyes at the moment that he had his pillow poised over her. She had known that her beloved son wanted to kill her. She knew that the burden of her illness had pushed him to the brink of collapse. She was willing to end her life at the hands of her beloved son. This was why she continued to pretend to be asleep and did not put up a struggle.

Kim Ja-hong was devastated to learn that his mother was aware of what was going on. He collapsed sobbing to the floor, and begged the King of Hell to give him one last chance to see his mother. His plea was rejected on account of the fact that he already had 15 years to make amends for his mistake on earth, but he never once visited his mother.

The judges declared: “The evidence clearly showed you to be guilty. What else do you have to say?”

The King of Hell wanted to sentence Kim Ja-hong to serving the sentence in the vast desert, being buried alive again and again in never-ending cycles. Just when the judges were about to announce the sentence, the heavens and earth shook. The scene in the karmic mirror changed. Kim Ja-hong’s younger brother – who had been killed in a freak accident – had witnessed the trial and seen the scenes in the karmic mirror. To help his brother, he had gone into their mother’s dream to confess everything that happened so many years ago.

At the sight of the mother that he had not seen in 15 years, Kim Ja-hong ran forward in a bid to hug her and to repent to her. At that moment, his mother spoke (physical limitations were non-existent in the land of dreams).

She said: “The blame does not lie on my child – the fault is totally mine.” In that sentence, she absolved Kim Ja-hong of all wrongdoing. She had already forgiven him at that instant.

Upon seeing this, the King of Hell lamented: “To err is human. How many people have been completely without fault in their lives? Even among those who have made mistakes, how many of them have the courage to beg for forgiveness? And how many have been able to get true forgiveness from those that they have hurt?” According to the law of the underworld, someone who has obtained the forgiveness of the person he or she has hurt will be absolved of the crime. Hence the King of Hell reversed his previous sentence and declared Kim Ja-hong not guilty.

The movie ended with Kim Ja-hong getting reincarnated successfully.

It is not easy to forgive. But only when we forgive others can we truly let go. All the remorse and suffering that Kim Ja-hong went through was a result of his inability to come clean with his mother about the mistake that he had committed. He had let it drag for 15 long years! If he has been able to let go of the past and let go of the pressure that he had not been able to withstand at that time, he would not have these regrets and remorse. This was a test that he had to go through in his life. The process may be difficult, but if he had made it through, he could have tasted the wonders in life.

Share your thoughts…

Do you agree with Kim Ja-hong’s decision? What will you do if you are in his shoes?
1. In the underworld, having the thought to carry out an action is representative of the action itself. So, someone who carries out the action of “killing” is actually doubly guilty. Do you agree?
2. Or do you feel that someone who did not truly kill somebody is not guilty and hence should not be punished?
3. Do you agree that achieving the forgiveness of the victim is sufficient to absolve the perpetrator of the wrongdoing?

Stay tuned for the sequel…..
To know which movie are we discussing next, do continue to follow me on Facebook…

Source of image: http://dexterstudios.com/zh…/portfolio-posts/along-with-god/
#AlongWithTheGods #HellOfFamilialMorality

【與神同行】天倫地獄
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你覺得被「被害者原諒」應該可以抹煞一切的罪行??
.
看電影有新思路...
「與神同行2」已全球上映,打算前往觀看二部的先來複習一下第一部吧,一起來聽聽「天上地上,無不探索」青年人的探討,歡迎大家也說說你的看法。。。
.
接下來我們要討論的是影片中,最扣人心弦,也是人心最脆弱的,那份觸動人們心中最柔軟的感動__天倫地獄。因為不想繼續承受母親生病所帶來的種種生活壓力,金自鴻決定先悶死母親,再殺死弟弟,這樣天理不容的弒親行為,究竟該如何才能被原諒?
.
當業鏡走到金自鴻正拿著枕頭,企圖要殺死自己的母親,弟弟出面阻止不成,金自鴻一怒之下轉而毆打弟弟,之後便離家出走,一去不返整整十五年。。。
.
陰間使者辯護說:「當時他雖然逃離開家,但是同時也立下志向,決定從此要為家人好好活著,並且努力賺錢,提供好的生活給母親和弟弟。」
.
但是透過業鏡,畫面出現金自鴻的母親其實是睜開眼的,她知道自己的孩子想要殺死她,也明白自己因病久臥病榻,孩子身上背負的責任與壓力已經讓他瀕臨崩潰了。想想,如果藉由兒子的手來結束這一切,也算是圓滿了她的一樁心願吧,所以假裝睡著,沒有掙扎。
.
金自鴻看完業鏡後,翻起塵封已久的記憶,跪地痛哭承認他有罪,並祈求能見母親最後一面,但地獄大王表示已經給金自鴻十五年的時間了,故回絕了請求。
.
判官:「業鏡中弑親罪已罪證確鑿,你還有甚麼話說?」
.
地獄大王要判金自鴻穿越永無止盡的沙漠,遭受沙漠活埋而死,再重生繼續穿越沙漠,活埋,死亡,不斷重複受苦。當審判官要宣判結果時,突然天搖地動。此時,業鏡出現變化了,原來是金自鴻的弟弟在軍中意外身亡,而他也目睹了金自鴻哥哥在天倫地獄的審判過程,於是他透過「託夢」到了母親的夢中,跟母親坦承當時所有的事情。
.
金自鴻看見15年未曾見面的母親,衝去想抱住母親,要當面和母親懺悔。此時,母親竟開口說話了(因為在夢中不受肉體障礙的阻隔)。
.
母親說:「都是我的錯,孩子並沒有錯。」原來母親早已在當下就原諒了他。
.
地獄大王看完感慨的說:「人都會犯錯,只有一部分的人,可以鼓起勇氣請求原諒;只有極少數的人,可以獲得真心原諒。」並說明陰律法則第一條:如能得到人世間的人的原諒,將不再進行審判,並宣布金自鴻的無罪判決……。」
.
故事結尾,因為母親的原諒而被判無罪的貴人_金自鴻,順利投胎了。
.
原諒,是件不容易的事情,但原諒別人才能放過自己。這一切的悔與錯,是金自鴻犯下了錯誤卻不知如何開口與母親坦誠,一拖就是15年!如果不是因為金自鴻太執著於過去,執著於當下無法承受的壓力,就不會有這些悔與憾。但這就是人世間的考驗,就像影片中,一家人最愛吃的鍋巴飯,熬製的過程也許很辛苦,熬過去了就是人間美味。
.
請聊一聊你的想法...
.
你是否認同金自鴻的立場抉擇,或你是金自鴻你會怎樣做! ! 
1.在陰律中「動念」就代表是實際的行為,加上殺人「行動」就是罪上加罪?
2.覺得沒有殺人成功就不該是事實的行為,不該受懲罰?
3.你覺得被「被害者原諒」應該可以抹煞一切的罪行??
.
敬請期待續集......??
想知道下一部要討論的電影嗎,請繼續關注我的facebook動態。。。
.
.
圖片來源:
http://dexterstudios.com/zh-hans/portfolio-posts/along-with-god/
#與神同行 #天倫地獄rnrn【Along with the Gods】 Hell of Familial Morality
 
Do you agree that obtaining the forgiveness from the victim will absolve one of wrongdoing, regardless of the severity of the mistake? 
 
Watching movies can bring us new inspirations…
 
[Along with the Gods 2] is currently showing in cinemas around the world. Let us recap the first movie and listen to what the ever-inquisitive youths think. At the same time, I also welcome all of you to share your thoughts here…
 
Here comes the most heart-wrenching and touching part of the movie – The Hell of Familial Morality. In a bid to escape from the sufferings brought about as a result of his mother’s illness, Kim Ja-hong decided to suffocate his ailing mother in her sleep and kill his brother after that. How can he gain forgiveness for such an atrocious deed? 
 
As the karmic mirror changed to display what happened during that time, everyone saw Kim Ja-hong hesitating with a pillow held over their ailing mother. His younger brother tried to stop him but got beaten up instead. After that, Kim Ja-hong ran away from home and had not returned in 15 years…
 
In his defense, his guides pointed out that he had a complete change of heart once he had left the house and had resolved to live on for his family. From then on, he had worked very hard to earn enough money to support his sick mother and brother. 
 
The scene in the karmic mirror shifted and everyone could now see that Kim Ja-hong’s mother had opened her eyes at the moment that he had his pillow poised over her. She had known that her beloved son wanted to kill her. She knew that the burden of her illness had pushed him to the brink of collapse. She was willing to end her life at the hands of her beloved son. This was why she continued to pretend to be asleep and did not put up a struggle.  
 
Kim Ja-hong was devastated to learn that his mother was aware of what was going on. He collapsed sobbing to the floor, and begged the King of Hell to give him one last chance to see his mother. His plea was rejected on account of the fact that he already had 15 years to make amends for his mistake on earth, but he never once visited his mother. 
 
The judges declared: “The evidence clearly showed you to be guilty. What else do you have to say?” 
 
The King of Hell wanted to sentence Kim Ja-hong to serving the sentence in the vast desert, being buried alive again and again in never-ending cycles. Just when the judges were about to announce the sentence, the heavens and earth shook. The scene in the karmic mirror changed. Kim Ja-hong’s younger brother – who had been killed in a freak accident – had witnessed the trial and seen the scenes in the karmic mirror. To help his brother, he had gone into their mother’s dream to confess everything that happened so many years ago. 
 
At the sight of the mother that he had not seen in 15 years, Kim Ja-hong ran forward in a bid to hug her and to repent to her. At that moment, his mother spoke (physical limitations were non-existent in the land of dreams). 
 
She said: “The blame does not lie on my child – the fault is totally mine.” In that sentence, she absolved Kim Ja-hong of all wrongdoing. She had already forgiven him at that instant.
 
Upon seeing this, the King of Hell lamented: “To err is human. How many people have been completely without fault in their lives? Even among those who have made mistakes, how many of them have the courage to beg for forgiveness? And how many have been able to get true forgiveness from those that they have hurt?” According to the law of the underworld, someone who has obtained the forgiveness of the person he or she has hurt will be absolved of the crime. Hence the King of Hell reversed his previous sentence and declared Kim Ja-hong not guilty.
 
The movie ended with Kim Ja-hong getting reincarnated successfully. 
 
It is not easy to forgive. But only when we forgive others can we truly let go. All the remorse and suffering that Kim Ja-hong went through was a result of his inability to come clean with his mother about the mistake that he had committed. He had let it drag for 15 long years! If he has been able to let go of the past and let go of the pressure that he had not been able to withstand at that time, he would not have these regrets and remorse. This was a test that he had to go through in his life. The process may be difficult, but if he had made it through, he could have tasted the wonders in life. 
 
Share your thoughts… 
 
Do you agree with Kim Ja-hong’s decision? What will you do if you are in his shoes?
1. In the underworld, having the thought to carry out an action is representative of the action itself. So, someone who carries out the action of “killing” is actually doubly guilty. Do you agree?
2. Or do you feel that someone who did not truly kill somebody is not guilty and hence should not be punished?
3. Do you agree that achieving the forgiveness of the victim is sufficient to absolve the perpetrator of the wrongdoing?
 
Stay tuned for the sequel….. 
To know which movie are we discussing next, do continue to follow me on Facebook…
 
 
Source of image: http://dexterstudios.com/zh…/portfolio-posts/along-with-god/
#AlongWithTheGods  #HellOfFamilialMorality

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【與神同行】謊言地獄 . 看電影有新思路…

【與神同行】謊言地獄
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看電影有新思路…
部分國家已火紅上映第二部,還沒去看的朋友們可以先來回顧一下第一部劇情吧!一起來聽聽「天上地上,無不探索」青年人的探討,歡迎大家也說說你的看法。。。
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接下來我們要討論的是_謊言地獄
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前兩天發出的討論中,提到的已故消防員隊友,留下了一個女兒,主角_金自鴻不忍心看小女孩從小就沒了父親,便以父親的口吻寫信給小女孩,讓小女孩以為父親還在世的希望,故審判官判他偽造文書(即說謊),表示如果當小女孩發現這些信都是假的,那就會造成更大的傷害。
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陰間使者辯護道:「金自鴻寫信給小女孩,是因為孩子的年齡實在是太小了不能缺少父愛!」
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審判官為了確認金自鴻的罪行,更調閱出他歷年的偽造文書,竟然多達上百封,令現場所有人瞠目結舌⋯⋯當審判官要敲板定案,判決金自鴻必須到「穿越劍林」受刑,所有樹葉皆由刀劍造成,穿過劍林時刀刃會刺穿身體,但傷口會迅速癒合,再重複穿越劍林,如此不斷循環受苦。
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陰間使者著急地做出最後辯護:「他不間斷的寫信鼓勵小女孩,是要她學會獨立生活,給女孩成長的信心,一直到孩子長大成年,也開始懂事了,女孩漸漸明白這些年來的信其實不是父親寫的,雖然她心中非常的失落,但也因為這些年以為是父親的鼓勵,她成了一個獨立又全方位的女孩!請審判官看看他努力的最終結果再裁決吧!」
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使者繼續說:「還有金自鴻因為怕久病的母親厭世,欺騙母親說自己有個幸福美滿的家庭,說自己過得非常幸福。反之…如果他誠實的告知母親,讓母親知道兒子為了幫自己籌醫藥費,每天生存在危險關頭,母親的病還能痊癒嗎?並且,人們因為有這些失落挫折感,反而能得到更大的成長不是嗎。」
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審判官用業鏡看了現在的小女孩,和金自鴻的母親,她們過得非常平靜、幸福的生活,好像這些波折從未發生過,女孩也因為明白了整個事情的原由,更以父親壯烈犧牲的義勇精神為榮,女孩也想效法父親的精神,做個社會中有用的人。
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業鏡到此,每個人都動容了!審判官若有所悟地做出金自鴻「無罪」的最終判決⋯⋯
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想想,也許每個人的一生當中難免都有說過謊言,是善意的也好,惡意的也罷,主要還是看你說這個謊言的主要的目的是為何?如果是惡意的、刻意欺瞞、為己之私,讓他人受到不公平的待遇或傷害,請選擇不要去做。
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如果有人會因你的誠實而受到傷害,在兩權相害取其輕之下,就選擇傷害較小的抉擇吧!
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這個章節說明了:「原來善意的謊言也會被納入審判範圍!除非你有完整的理由來解釋說謊的動機;並且,結果必須為被騙者帶來絕對的正面效果,否則也會被判官質疑:即便你的出發點為善意謊言,給受騙者帶來傷害,就必須判為有罪!」

請聊一聊你的想法…
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你是否認同主角金自鴻的作法,或你是男主角你會怎樣做!
1.覺得欺騙的背後動機比看到的事實還重要?
2.善意的謊言終究還是個謊言,應該要接受處罰??
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敬請期待續集_天倫地獄……
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#與神同行 #謊言地獄 #善與惡 #世界和平rnrn【Along with the Gods】 Hell of Deceit

Insights through watching the movie…
Some countries have already released the second part of the movie. Those that have yet to watch it can recap the first part of the movie. Let’s listen to the discussion among young people about the movie. I welcome all to share your opinion….

Now, let us discuss the Hell of Deceit.

In our discussion 2 days ago, we mentioned that the protagonist Kim Ja-Hong’s fellow firefighter had passed on, leaving behind a daughter. Kim could not bear to see the little girl being fatherless at such a young age and hence decided to forge letters to her by writing in the style of her father so as to give her hope that her father was alive. However, the judge in the underworld accused the protagonist of forgery (and deceit), saying that if the little girl were to discover that the letters she received were all fake, she would be heartbroken and felt even more hurt.

Kim’s defendant in the underworld argued “Kim Ja-Hong wrote to the little girl because she was too young and couldn’t do without paternal love!”

In order to sentence the crimes that Kim Ja-hong commuted, the judge read out the documents that Kim had forged throughout the years, totaling to more than a hundred, much to the surprise of everyone at the scene. Eventually, the judge delivered his verdict. Kim was sentenced to cross the razor-sharp and dangerous Jin Lian forest where its leaves are as swords. When one passes through the forest, the leaf blades will pierce through his body but the wound will heal quickly and then the cycle repeats, piercing the person again and again, causing much pain and suffering.

The underworld defendant made an urgent plea to the judge: “Kim constantly writes letters to encourage the little girl so as to give her the confidence to grow up independently. As the little girl grows older and became more mature, she begun to understand that the letters were not written by her father. Although she felt very disappointed, she had blossomed into a confident, independent and well-rounded lady due to the encouragement from Kim’s letters. Your honor, please take into account the final result of his letters and then decide on his sentence! ”

The underworld defendant continued, “The protagonist also sent messages to his chronically sick mother. In his letters, he lied that he had a blissful and loving family and felt very contented. If he were to tell his mother the truth that he was working dangerous jobs to pay for her medical bills, would his mother have recovered from her illness as quickly? It is due to these setbacks and failures that humankind learn how to grow and recover from them successfully.”

The judge used the karma mirror to see that the little girl and Kim’s mother were leading peaceful and blissful lives, as if the incident had never occurred. In addition, as the little girl understood the whole situation, she is inspired by her father’s courageous and heroic sacrifice and hope to continue her father’s spirit to be a productive member of the society.

At this point, everyone was very touched by Kim’s actions! The judge made an enlightened decision and declared Kim ‘not guilty’ as his final verdict.

Let’s give it some thought. Perhaps, all of us have told a lie at least once during our lifetime. Whether the lie is good or evil is dependent on your purpose of telling the lie. If you had evil intentions and lied for the purpose of deliberately deceiving just so you stand to benefit and in the process cause injustice or harm to the other party, please choose not to do it.

If someone is hurt due to your honesty, between the two evils, choose the one that will cause lesser harm!

This section illustrated that we will also be prosecuted on our white lies unless the motive of lying can be justified and it brings positive result to the other party. Otherwise, we will be questioned even though the motive was good, but it caused harm to the other party, you will also be found guilty.

Please share your thoughts regarding this matter….

Do you agree with the protagonist Kim Ja-Hong’s approach? Or if you were the actor, what would you do if you were in his situation!

1. Do you think that the motivation for lying is more important than the facts you see?
2. Lying with good intentions is still a lie after-all. Should it be punished?

Stay tuned for the next episode – Along with the Gods: Familial Morality…

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